Although it wasn't great, I think I liked it better than you did. Yes, I got very sick of zombie vomit (never thought I'd type that phrase in my lifetime) and yes I was super pissed every time the zombie dad showed up to terrorize his kids, but whatever...there were parts of that movie that made me terrified. Hordes of infected people running were pretty terrifying. And seeing what the armed forces had to go through in picking innocent people off to try to stop the infection was terrifying. The DUN DUN DUUUUUN ending was somewhat terrifying. No wait, it was predictable and boring....I forgot.

Will I ever see it again? NO. Was I mildly entertained? SURE.

I liked it from the general 'i want tons of violence in a short period of time' standpoint. I was greatly disappointed in the end however. The first 2/3 of the movie i was seriously curious as to where it was leading, but then the wrap up kind of spoiled the whole movie for me. However, if they come out with a 28 months later and wrap it up properly i might like this one a bit more.

This line from the review made me laugh...
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Oh, but something goes wrong like it always does. It's at the point where chaos breaks loose that this movie looses it's steam and begins to become the same scene over and over, only different backgrounds, until the credits roll

I Have to Agree, 2000%, and I loves the zombie movies...

This movie terrified me...and I dont mean in the scary way. It was, perhaps, the single worst example of swiss-cheese plotting of ALL TIME!!! I actually liked the original, but this...fhew. Okay, I mean, where to begin? Theres a bridge leading out from the island and there are NO GUARDS on the other side to stop the kids, and no one comes to round them up the entire time they're A-WALling it in and around the store, looking for keys. Nevermind that the kids would willingly travel willy-nilly through a city littered with DEAD PEOPLE for the sake of acquiring some mementos from their old home. I think they really did go to a special school for 'special' kids. Then theres the dad, civilian, who apparently has access to every keycard-locked-door on the entire quarantined island. I dont mean 'hey I can get into this shwank hotel', I mean 'hey I can get to the very heart of this otherwise 'heavily' guarded military facility'. Then introduce the mom who is infected but not quite a zombie. Shes screaming and raving when the military finally shows up to grab the kids, and they...dont...shoot her...on sight. Okay. Very patient is the military but I suppose I could buy that. So they grab her, and later find out shes infected. Now, the doctor here is arguing that they can use her for a cure. But...if they're all dead, what use is a cure? Wait, they're not all dead, there's this woman we have who is the last known carrier of the disease. A highly infectious disease that if given a chance could wipe out mankind as we know it. So, rather than drop her on the spot in the name of preserving billions of lives, the doc wants to experiment on her in hopes of finding a cure. Kay. Now entering stupidity zone: the military then informs the kid's dad (the one with that crazy swipe crap that opens EVERY door and who has guilt trip feelings over leaving her for dead) that she is alive and sorta-well. Later, he decides, on his own initiative, to go see her. Are there any guards posted outside her key-card locked door (the keycard thing becomes really relevant in a sec, trust me)? Nope. So he enters, and kisses her, and boom-zombie. Thrashes around in the typical incoherent zombie-blood-barfing fashion, kills the wife...and here's where it gets wrong again. Somehow, despite having lost most rational cognitive ability (rage virus), he manages to open the door and escape. Now...that requires him to swipe his magic card. In a deliberate, correctly paced fashion. This is where, I believe, the original script writer must have begun experiencing the virus himsself. So, okay, somehow zombie dad escapes (I'm thinking he's got the no-clipping cheat), and now he rampages away infecting/killing all in his path. All those military personnel, armed with badass rifles, trained for just such an emergency, stationed in the quarantine facility, apparently couldn't stop him thanks to...ZoMbIeCaM!! Now cut to later...the virus is loose, and the head military guy does the code-red thing, which involves securing all the citizens in these handy parking-garage structures (no pre-built bunkers ((designed for just an emergency)) for these folks) and pad-locks them in. No apparently, while they may have had fire-drill and tornado-drill training, no one bothered to tell them about zombie-training. So instead they're screaming and mosshing in protest at beign herded somewhere like sacrificial lams. Enter zombie dad, who, at this point, as also figured 'god mode' and blasts past the few guards outside one of the parking garage's 'secured' doors. Enters, infects, and the zombie population of England jumps a few zeroes. Now things have definately gotten out of control. So...what does the military do, realizing their plan is FUBAR? Do they set off the nuke that any wise thinking military strategist would have strategically placed for JUST such an emergency (think Stargate)? Fresh out I'm afraid. Do they at least BLOW THE BRIDGE(s) so escape becomes highly-unlikely (presuming they can swim across, without drowning)? Left the C-4 back in the states. Do they even activate the RFID tags that every citizen of that city SHOULD have been wearing? Nope, too high tech. Okay, so the zombies get loose then. No prob. Cut past the crazy hide-and-seek/kill-em-all phases that follow, cut to the part where they firebomb the city. Napalm, I'm told, was likely what they used. Okay. Now, it does look pretty effective. However, they're dealing with ZOMBIE DAD! Who, apparently with God and No Clipping mode, has also retained enough intelligence (reminds me of a certain George Romero flick) that he leads his fellow oppressed zomies into the utter-dark of the subway tunnels (or chunnel maybe?, not sure), where they escape otherwise certain doom. Cut to the part where the kids and their accompanying AWAL/Sacrifical lamb military buddies are taking shelter in a car from the nerve gas and zombies. Zombies dead, the sharpshooter notes the approach of a flamethrower wielding squad of bio-suited military types. His idea, his brilliant bit of brainstorming? To get out of the car and push it, sacrificing himself to get the car rolling (because they REALLY need it). He...has...a...rifle. Does he pop his head out and add some lead to the heads of the cleanup squad so they can all drive-away in peace? Nope. Ah well, he was brave at least. Shunting past the issues of nightvision and pointing dangerous weapons at children while fumbling/tripping around in the dark over scary dead boddies, we are greeted with a few probably-will-never-be-answered questions. 1) How is it zombies can see in the dark?! 2) Why is it zombies have no problem with bright light in this movie when they did in the last? 3)How does a zombie know that the guy running next to him is a fellow zombie and not a non-zombie (we'll call them viral-impaired)? 4) Presuming they have some means of telling each other apart, is there some sort of zombie-labor-union? I mean, why attack the nearest human when your already raging and theres this other angry and annoying guy next to you? Maybe they disagree with the plot holes more than the viral-impaired? Who knows? At long last, cut to the end where they're flying away in the helicopter, crossing the english channel into France. If you were a governing body, possessed of a modern military power, wouldn't you design some sort of coastal defense to prevent the plague from spreading from England to you? I don't know, Sam Batteries, pillboxes, mines, that sort of thing? Even if not, would not our own military, equipped with jets (fire-bombing) and Apache's, at least attempt to shoot down a helicopter that (according to their radar) descended low enough to have probably landed, in the (GPS revealed) vicinity of a stadium, is not communicating on regular channels, and is now making its way to France, would they not at least TRY to shoot them down? Even presuming that Apocolypse Timmy was not responsible for the outbreak (here comes the Chunnel theroy), would they not have blocked/blownup/otherwise made impassable this last avenue of escape? Would not have France, a nuclear power in its own right, have NUKED the frigging country from the get-go? Ah well. I'm not sure whether this movie was intended to poke fun at the US military or at zombie movies in general, but it left me feeling sad. At least it was free popcorn night.

Brilliant, Shaggyfish! So true!

You also get the War And Peace award for longest forum entry EVER! D

paragraphs shaggy paragraphs, don't forget to breathe :D

hilarious shaggyfish...and I haven't even seen the movie! You and Cap have a lot in common when it comes to frustrations over this movie.

A lot of good points too...CAN zombies see in the dark? Where's our zombie expert when you need him? Kweejibo?

That should be put on a T-shirt, word for word.

The wink is the coolest part of the trailer.

Is it true that the wink was cut from the movie?

By wink, do you mean bloody vomit? Then, NO, it's still in the movie.

i just saw the wink you're talking about, Buck
http://stage6.divx.com/Trailer-Park/video/1198154/28-Weeks-Later-trailer
I think that is still in the movie, but he's not infected if that's what you were wondering. I don't remember if it was cut or not.

that trailer is way better than the movie :)

Shaggyfish wrote:

I Have to Agree, 2000%, and I loves the zombie movies...

This movie terrified me...and I dont mean in the scary way. It was, perhaps, the single worst example of swiss-cheese plotting of ALL TIME!!! I actually liked the original, but this...fhew. Okay, I mean, where to begin? Theres a bridge leading out from the island and there are NO GUARDS on the other side to stop the kids, and no one comes to round them up the entire time they're A-WALling it in and around the store, looking for keys. Nevermind that the kids would willingly travel willy-nilly through a city littered with DEAD PEOPLE for the sake of acquiring some mementos from their old home. I think they really did go to a special school for 'special' kids. Then theres the dad, civilian, who apparently has access to every keycard-locked-door on the entire quarantined island. I dont mean 'hey I can get into this shwank hotel', I mean 'hey I can get to the very heart of this otherwise 'heavily' guarded military facility'. Then introduce the mom who is infected but not quite a zombie. Shes screaming and raving when the military finally shows up to grab the kids, and they...dont...shoot her...on sight. Okay. Very patient is the military but I suppose I could buy that. So they grab her, and later find out shes infected. Now, the doctor here is arguing that they can use her for a cure. But...if they're all dead, what use is a cure? Wait, they're not all dead, there's this woman we have who is the last known carrier of the disease. A highly infectious disease that if given a chance could wipe out mankind as we know it. So, rather than drop her on the spot in the name of preserving billions of lives, the doc wants to experiment on her in hopes of finding a cure. Kay. Now entering stupidity zone: the military then informs the kid's dad (the one with that crazy swipe crap that opens EVERY door and who has guilt trip feelings over leaving her for dead) that she is alive and sorta-well. Later, he decides, on his own initiative, to go see her. Are there any guards posted outside her key-card locked door (the keycard thing becomes really relevant in a sec, trust me)? Nope. So he enters, and kisses her, and boom-zombie. Thrashes around in the typical incoherent zombie-blood-barfing fashion, kills the wife...and here's where it gets wrong again. Somehow, despite having lost most rational cognitive ability (rage virus), he manages to open the door and escape. Now...that requires him to swipe his magic card. In a deliberate, correctly paced fashion. This is where, I believe, the original script writer must have begun experiencing the virus himsself. So, okay, somehow zombie dad escapes (I'm thinking he's got the no-clipping cheat), and now he rampages away infecting/killing all in his path. All those military personnel, armed with badass rifles, trained for just such an emergency, stationed in the quarantine facility, apparently couldn't stop him thanks to...ZoMbIeCaM!! Now cut to later...the virus is loose, and the head military guy does the code-red thing, which involves securing all the citizens in these handy parking-garage structures (no pre-built bunkers ((designed for just an emergency)) for these folks) and pad-locks them in. No apparently, while they may have had fire-drill and tornado-drill training, no one bothered to tell them about zombie-training. So instead they're screaming and mosshing in protest at beign herded somewhere like sacrificial lams. Enter zombie dad, who, at this point, as also figured 'god mode' and blasts past the few guards outside one of the parking garage's 'secured' doors. Enters, infects, and the zombie population of England jumps a few zeroes. Now things have definately gotten out of control. So...what does the military do, realizing their plan is FUBAR? Do they set off the nuke that any wise thinking military strategist would have strategically placed for JUST such an emergency (think Stargate)? Fresh out I'm afraid. Do they at least BLOW THE BRIDGE(s) so escape becomes highly-unlikely (presuming they can swim across, without drowning)? Left the C-4 back in the states. Do they even activate the RFID tags that every citizen of that city SHOULD have been wearing? Nope, too high tech. Okay, so the zombies get loose then. No prob. Cut past the crazy hide-and-seek/kill-em-all phases that follow, cut to the part where they firebomb the city. Napalm, I'm told, was likely what they used. Okay. Now, it does look pretty effective. However, they're dealing with ZOMBIE DAD! Who, apparently with God and No Clipping mode, has also retained enough intelligence (reminds me of a certain George Romero flick) that he leads his fellow oppressed zomies into the utter-dark of the subway tunnels (or chunnel maybe?, not sure), where they escape otherwise certain doom. Cut to the part where the kids and their accompanying AWAL/Sacrifical lamb military buddies are taking shelter in a car from the nerve gas and zombies. Zombies dead, the sharpshooter notes the approach of a flamethrower wielding squad of bio-suited military types. His idea, his brilliant bit of brainstorming? To get out of the car and push it, sacrificing himself to get the car rolling (because they REALLY need it). He...has...a...rifle. Does he pop his head out and add some lead to the heads of the cleanup squad so they can all drive-away in peace? Nope. Ah well, he was brave at least. Shunting past the issues of nightvision and pointing dangerous weapons at children while fumbling/tripping around in the dark over scary dead boddies, we are greeted with a few probably-will-never-be-answered questions. 1) How is it zombies can see in the dark?! 2) Why is it zombies have no problem with bright light in this movie when they did in the last? 3)How does a zombie know that the guy running next to him is a fellow zombie and not a non-zombie (we'll call them viral-impaired)? 4) Presuming they have some means of telling each other apart, is there some sort of zombie-labor-union? I mean, why attack the nearest human when your already raging and theres this other angry and annoying guy next to you? Maybe they disagree with the plot holes more than the viral-impaired? Who knows? At long last, cut to the end where they're flying away in the helicopter, crossing the english channel into France. If you were a governing body, possessed of a modern military power, wouldn't you design some sort of coastal defense to prevent the plague from spreading from England to you? I don't know, Sam Batteries, pillboxes, mines, that sort of thing? Even if not, would not our own military, equipped with jets (fire-bombing) and Apache's, at least attempt to shoot down a helicopter that (according to their radar) descended low enough to have probably landed, in the (GPS revealed) vicinity of a stadium, is not communicating on regular channels, and is now making its way to France, would they not at least TRY to shoot them down? Even presuming that Apocolypse Timmy was not responsible for the outbreak (here comes the Chunnel theroy), would they not have blocked/blownup/otherwise made impassable this last avenue of escape? Would not have France, a nuclear power in its own right, have NUKED the frigging country from the get-go? Ah well. I'm not sure whether this movie was intended to poke fun at the US military or at zombie movies in general, but it left me feeling sad. At least it was free popcorn night.

i personaly like this movie...
i agree that there should have been more gaurds at the bridges, but then again district one isnt a prison, no (adult) would be stupid enough to leave the security zone. in the words of bill cosby, children have brain damage.

why not give a person who has a great responsability as don, a key card to almsot everywhere. mostlikley he would be stopped at the really sensitive areas, but they have nothing to hide.

why shoot the infected mom whens shes not displaying the typical rage effects.

yes, the doctor wants to study the mom, find a cure, and maybe save her, as well as having a prevention to any future outbrakes. thats her agenda, but shes not in charge, general stone did wanted the mom dead the moment he learned she was infected
" ...study the corpse..."

why not inform don his wife is alive, they trusted him. they obvisouly would give a man of his responsability an evaluation, they probably missed out on the fact that he is an emotional wreck for leaving his wife behind. i agree that they should have had one gaurd at the door, but at first they didnt know she was infected, so they didnt expect much of a threat involving a tied up emotionaly damaged woman. they where already on thier way to kill her, but Don got to his wife first. and maybe he didnt use thekey card to get out. kinda looked like he broke the door open from what i recall.

id did bother me that the soldiers didnt shoot don, but then again, they never dealt with infection before, and werent expecting the virus to pop out of nowhere in the middle of a military facility. from what i saw, they had wtf expressions on thier face before they got attacked.

why would they need drills for another outbrake, when they believed the
"war on infection" had been won. one could say that is somehow arrogant, and id say you where right, but thats what they thought.

lol at the god mode bit. he did infect a few soldiers, so he probably didnt get to the garage single handidly, idk. i do think, and this bothers me a bit, that there should have been some soldiers with the civies, but they would fooked anyway.

nuke, rriiiiiggghhht. and what would be the point in blowing up bridges, the isle of dogs aka district 1 is a peninsula, they wouldov gotten out anyway. and what porpuse would rfid's have in the middle of the outbrake?

why would doyle want to kill more of his fellow soldiers. sure he killed another sniper, but that had a reason, he was blocking theyre only way out of district one, minutes before it was to be firebombed. he didnt have to kill these guys, they were coming from behind, so they werent in the way. and i dont think sacraficing himself was part of the plan, even though he knew it would happen.

the night vison bit bugged me too, but she was a medical doctor, army training aside, that wasnt her bag of chips.

1) sound from all the noise they made, maybe?
2) i dot recall them having trouble with light in the first movie to begin with. all i remeber was marks idea of only travel in day light, probably because since there's no power, cant see jack at night, more dangerous.
3) this question has been done to death, shaun of the dead offers a reasonable explination. and since infected are still alive, maybe they're a tad bit smarter than theyre undead counterparts.
4)...lol. i dont know if this is true, but back when 28 days later came out, someone mentioned that when there were no people around, the infected would turn on eachother sometimes. since they havent shown this onscreen, its still a rumor.

no need for a coastal defense, its is highly doubtfull that anything can survive crossing the english channel swimming. since they were still alive, an infected would die and sink to the bottom, if he were stupid enought to try it in the first place.

the military just bombed the district, killed a few thousand people, and have to deal with the infected that got out, i think one of their own military helicopters would be the least of their worries... but then again, it caused the destrution of france. lol

and i do belive the chunnle was blocked up, and still was. and if not, they would have gotten word of the new outbrake and closed it off again, blowin it up if needed. lol, what is it with you and nukes... the fallout from nuking britan would probably poison parst of western europe.

well, atleast you didnt complain about the timeline issues, lol. you all can still hate the movie if you want, in the end, everyone's entitled to thier own opinions.

Hey, thanks for quoting that. It really wasn't long enough the first time.

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I would point out that the Rage virus has a Infectious Factor (made that term up) of 'total'. That is to say that the moment you are exposed to it, you acquire it. As a matter of fact, until this movie, no one who was ever exposed to it failed to acquire it (unless were talking about the ones that died, but I bet they were ticked WHILE they were dying). SO, if theres a virus that completely anhilated jolly old England and that can infect someone with supernatural speed and ease, if its possible that there is even 1 case, then EVERYONE is at risk. This is, of course, not in doubt, as the movie illustrates the problem.
But if your a responsible goverment handling the redistribution of citizenry into a nation that was completely anhialated by said disease then I would think NO precaution was unwarranted. After all, it could mutate, become airborn or the like. As far as the fallout of nuclear weapons is concerned though, while I certainly agree it would be bad, like 'my hotdog glows and I haven't even opened the package' bad, the results would be FAR less catastrophic than the alternative. Also, to a limited extent, any problems caused by fallout would be at least mitigatable by movement of affected areas of the populace once radioactive contamination was determined. This WOULD have a catastrophic effect on their economy, but we're talking about taking a bullet in the leg as opposed to the think-pan. Better of two evils here, by far.
As far as the passcard thing goes, the guy was a survivor, not a military intelligence expert or even some sort of civilian specialist. Unless I missed something, which is certainly possible in all of that, the guy was simply assigned as a custodian type, strictly non-military. That being said, if you were following the guideline of 0-tollerance that would accompany any outrbreak of this sort (especially one that currently lacks a cure), I dont think a civilian would be granted even nominal access to anything that has anything to do with examining survivors. During the course of events, it was pointed out that the procedure that they were using on the mom had been developed due to the persistant acquisition of survivors since they had arrived on scene. Now they hadnt found anyone in the last three months, and werent expecting to, but that doesnt mean you assume its gone. And obviously they didnt, hence the bio-suited armed partrols outside the city, attack helicopters, snipers, etc. They were hoping it was gone, but much of the city had not been cleared and they werent taking chances...sorta :wink:
Concerning the soldiers preparedness, I agree that they probably werent expecting it, but I wouldnt go so far as to say they hadnt been trained for it (evidence to the contrary). After all, in post plague England, the only 2 things you really need a legion of armed guards, snipers, helicopters and jets for are looters and the 'infected' ("Have you come into contact with the infected?"). Hmm...I might also include that an armed US presence might shake off another nations desiere to try and occupy said country as their own...but I'm not sure who'd be dumb enough to risk it, let alone have the power to mobilize faster than we do.
In regards to the sniper and the car incident, if you killed a fellow soldier ONCE to evade death of you and those your protecting at his hands, wouldnt you repeat that when next presented with such a situation, or do you think he was feeling guilty about it. I could see that. But they're armed with flamethrowers, you have a gun, and you KNOW they're going to try and kill you. Unless your the Flash, the Phoenix, Pyro, Johnny Storm, or have a similar resume, your not fire proof and neither are the people in the vehicle. Kill first, ask questions later. Hell you dont know that they DONT have firearms.
Also, I remember it being discribed as an 'island', but I dont live in or near that region (being defined as anywhere east of D.C.) so I wouldnt be in the know. Although, the Sci-Fi channel review guy seems to concur.
Finally, when it comes to the helicopter flying away, I'm not sure how risking exposure of the virus to an 'uncontained' (read: not an island, my parking spot, mountain-top hotel-during-a-thunderstorm or similarly remote location) would be considered LESS than top priority. Especially once you realized that your earlier efforts were innefective (If regular human joes who get annoyed at things like bullet holes managed to make it, then smarter-than-your-average-zombie zombies can CERTAINLY have survived). :twisted:

There are so many different ideas to pick apart in your post that I will just go with the first one. I?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥ll respond to the others later for everyone's sanity.

Dr. Strangeweird wrote:

i personaly like this movie...
i agree that there should have been more gaurds at the bridges, but then again district one isnt a prison, no (adult) would be stupid enough to leave the security zone. in the words of bill cosby, children have brain damage.

No. It's an militarily controlled zone, right in the midst of what would be the CDC's biggest headache ever, which should be heavily guarded. This means that at the very least they should have strung barbed wire up around the sides of the bridges. That'll prevent that very method that the children used to cross out into the quarantine zone.

The sniper on the building clearly had a moment of weakness in not shooting near the kids or radioing the troops on the bridge to just walk over to the end and stop the kids. It was a trite method in order for the plot to advance. "The kids gotta get out of the military compound somehow. I know they just got there that day, but they have to get a picture of their mother. So they will risk death, imprisonment, and infection to get it."

Think of it this way: The medic later discussed that they had no practical knowledge of how the virus works. This means that if a someone left the "safe zone", went out into the quarantine zone, tripped and fell over a body, and accidentally infected themselves with coagulated fluids of a corpse (yes, disease runs rampant in areas of rotting bodies), you have a brand new outbreak of the disease to contend with.

Realistically, the military would have cleared out a large area around what would be the resettled area. They would want a nice flat plane in where any possible infected people would have to run across only to be mowed down by machine gun nests (remember, they figured attacks would come from the outside, but they have guns facing inward just in case). They have no idea if the disease is stopped, but just the vague idea that it has not jumped species, gone air or waterborne, and that the last actual infected person died out months before. They have no verification of this, so they must plan for the possibility.

To get an idea of how the military would really handle something like this you have to look at the disease itself. It is at least a Biosafety Level 4 rated disease. More than likely, the ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?Rage Virus?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? would have its own level created, thus making the fictional Biosafety Level 5 a reality. Why would such extreme measures be needed? Well, let?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s look at Biosafety Level 4, shall we?

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Biosafety Level 4 is required for work with dangerous and exotic agents that pose a high individual risk of aerosol-transmitted laboratory infections and life-threatening disease. Agents with a close or identical antigenic relationship to Biosafety Level 4 agents are handled at this level until sufficient data are obtained either to confirm continued work at this level, or to work with them at a lower level. Members of the laboratory staff have specific and thorough training in handling extremely hazardous infectious agents and they understand the primary and secondary containment functions of the standard and special practices, the containment equipment, and the laboratory design characteristics. They are supervised by competent scientists who are trained and experienced in working with these agents. Access to the laboratory is strictly controlled by the laboratory director. The facility is either in a separate building or in a controlled area within a building, which is completely isolated from all other areas of the building. A specific facility operations manual is prepared or adopted.

Within work areas of the facility, all activities are confined to Class III biological safety cabinets, or Class II biological safety cabinets used with one-piece positive pressure personnel suits ventilated by a life support system. The Biosafety Level 4 laboratory has special engineering and design features to prevent microorganisms from being disseminated into the environment.

Ebola is rated Biosafety level 4 due to the high mortality rate. The ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?Rage Virus?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? up to the point of this movie has a 100% infection rate, with an infected person becoming a full-blown carrier in under twenty seconds. All of their bodily fluids suddenly teem with the virus and they immediately can pass along the virus. If that isn?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t bad enough, the individual?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s higher brain functions shut down and the virus (more like a parasite) controls the individual into seeking out non-infected individuals for the purposes of infection.

The parasite forces the host to infect other people by inducing blind rage and reducing the higher brain functions. The sudden infection isn?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t without its toll, as many capillaries burst in the subject, giving them the red-eyed look, and causing hemorrhaging or ulceration of the stomach. The idea that they are ?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ?flesh-eating zombies?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ? is actually disproved in both movies, but the best proof was when Don doesn?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t try to bite her, but instead starts beating her to death. He spits copious amounts of blood at her (the hemorrhaging effect), pounds on her, and finally gouges out her eyes. We don?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t see him try biting her or eating her. It is evident that when the subjects do get hungry, they try and take down non-infected individuals for the purposes of trying to eat, but that is not their main motivation. Their emotions are manipulated so that they will better spread the parasite using violent behavior (biting, scratching, etc) to encourage fluid-to-fluid contact, and not a need to feed.

So, when having to deal with this level of a disease, the CDC would be called in with the NATO-led forces and they would follow the protocol measures found in the CDC?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s VHF Infection Control Manual and first secure an area for a base of operations. This would most likely be done not in the center of a city (such as Sector 1 was), but on the outskirts. The idea is to have a large area for waste disposal and to establish a relatively clean area for their base of operations. Next, the city would be divided into sections and a systematic search of the area would commence. The idea would be to try and find any survivors while trying to capture live specimens.

Why live specimens? Simple. They have no idea where this disease came from, let alone what has happened to the disease over the course of five weeks (remember, they were there around five months before the movie started). They would take as many samples as they could from deceased specimens and quarantine all survivors found. This means that Don would be stuck in a detention facility as they do round after round of medical procedures in order to verify that the virus has ended. They don?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t have any live samples of the virus, so it is hard to even determine what they are looking for at the beginning. Fortunately, post-mortem examinations of the infected would eventually clear Don, and he would be released to an off-site refugee camp.

No, surprisingly enough, the CDC has trained individuals who handle this sort of thing, so a civilian wouldn?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t have access to the CDC areas, let alone be allowed to go there unescorted. He would be shipped off to a camp, and more than likely reunited with his children. Happy endings for all.

The CDC would then advise that large settlements, such as cities, would have to be burned and rebuilt, due to the large contamination of the surrounding areas, the sheer massive amounts of dead (estimated population of 7.2 million in 2001), and waste contamination from the chaos that accompanied the outbreak. This means that the restoration of England would be something that is on the space of decades in order to be rebuilt, due to the high risk of infection of this disease.

Repopulation while the CDC?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s work is underway, would not be an option. Fortunately, there wouldn?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥t be a large displaced population as almost all of England?¢‚Ǩ?°?É‚Äû?ɬ¥s estimated 60,776.238 people would be dead and rotting in the sun. This means that other countries would absorb the displaced population while the biggest combined restoration project since the post-WWII reconstruction of Japan and Europe would be underway. This would give the CDC plenty of time to study the virus, safely dispose of all of the remains, and rebuild the country.

True, this would not make for a good movie, however, that is the way these events would have actually gone.

You realize that you guys are arguing over a zombie movie series where the only real message is "people get mad, grr" and "drink pepsi" ?

Maybe they should switch their sponsor from Pepsi to Pepto.

Extreme "excessively shaky camera work induced disorientation" and/or constant "darkness in moments of suspence inevibility" does not add to the tension in the mind of the audience... It just ticks them off when they get fed up with missing out on all the ... everything.

I thought the intro, the people hiding in the house at the beginning of the film, had an amazing promise. But then they started shaking the camera and I couldn't tell what the heck was going on... which can be fun to a point I suppose. But there are limits.

In spite of everything I was willing to give this movie a chance, I mean after all... zombie movies (forgive me, I know they're called the "infected" here) are often at their best when they're pushing B grade elements.

And that guy from Trainspotting... he's good. Coulda carried the movie on his own.

But then they killed killed him off or rather infected him... oh whatever... and things just kept getting sillier and sillier.

Yeah, the intro was the best this film had to offer. After that it went all wonky. As we all knew going in (but I'll say it anyway) from the first film: "No, no. No, see this is a really $h!~ idea. You know why? Because it's really obviously a $h!~ idea."

By the way, what's the deal with London films and Swans? Everytime I saw a wandering Swan (and there were a few, weren't there), I thought of Hot Fuzz.