mandosoldier wrote:

Debating is arguing at some point.

No it isn't!

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. And by the way, you mess with one ewok you mess with them all, which is different than the hobbit philosophy of "let someone else handle it" that got Frodo as well as Bilbo looked down upon as adventuresome.

I guess you skipped chapters "A knife in the dark" and "The Scouring of the Shire."
I suggest you read them again; you mess with one hobbit, you mess with DEATH.

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And please facing a single grim reaper wannabe is no where near as ballsy as facing down an entire empire and instead of killing the leaders you attempt to save them from themselves.

Actually Luke SURRENDERED to the Empire, thereby compromising his own side in order to save his father the traitor; obviously Luke is a nepotist who puts loyalty to family over principle.

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And yeah, I'd save my friends too, they're the only thing standing between myself and a whole army of things looking to kick my butt.

Bingo-- UNLIKE Luke, who compromises the lives of his friends and their mission, for the sake of his father THE TRAITOR.
That would be like Aragorn risking everything to save the Mouth of Sauron because they were also related.

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Even the dwarf made more of an accounting for himself facing down thousands of orcs and he didn't even have a magic sword that glowed blue.Long live dwarves!

Pfft, Bilbo walked in to face a dragon that Gimli's father wouldn't even go anywhere NEAR! Gimli just killed a few orcs.
Frodo, meanwhile, fought barrow-wights, Huorns, The Witch-king, Nazgul, a troll, a giant spider and Gollum. Meanwhile he was still kind-hearted enough to spare the lives of Gollum and Saruman.

And Aragorn? He faced Nazgul, the Balrog, Saruman, Helm's Deep, the DEAD, 60 years of war with Sauron's forces etc., The Black Gate, etc.

1ArmGamer wrote:

More like a draw between two users (who's names I will not mention). Both have their respective "opinions" and are going to stick by them.

thats not really what i mean i meant it is evenly matvhed so draw because aragorn is a more skilled experienced fighter that luke but luke has the force
and it can go either wayand it will only be able to happen once ( cause only transformers can come back to life) so the two users will duke it out over who will win but it will never be solved so I must say DRAW

isaac5 wrote:

1ArmGamer wrote:

More like a draw between two users (who's names I will not mention). Both have their respective "opinions" and are going to stick by them.

thats not really what i mean i meant it is evenly matvhed so draw because aragorn is a more skilled experienced fighter that luke but luke has the force

Aragorn has powers too-- mainly the power of LEADERSHIP. AND COMMAND. Luke just has some magic tricks; Aragorn leaves Gandalf to deal with the penny-ante Penn & Teller stuff. Luke couldn't even beat a few Ewoks (and I don't mean the whole tribe, I just mean the few who captured him).

GringoDingo wrote:

isaac5 wrote:

1ArmGamer wrote:

More like a draw between two users (who's names I will not mention). Both have their respective "opinions" and are going to stick by them.

thats not really what i mean i meant it is evenly matvhed so draw because aragorn is a more skilled experienced fighter that luke but luke has the force

Aragorn has powers too-- mainly the power of LEADERSHIP. AND COMMAND. Luke just has some magic tricks; Aragorn leaves Gandalf to deal with the penny-ante Penn & Teller stuff. Luke couldn't even beat a few Ewoks (and I don't mean the whole tribe, I just mean the few who captured him).

Um yeah that's why he was able to manipulate them into believing 3PO was a god and freed the whole group. He didn't TRY to fight them, he knew he wouldn't have to. Yeah leadership and command, that's why he doesn't command either until the last part of part 3, just spends the rest of the time moping chasing hobbit carrying orcs from place to place. And you recall he would have lost had Gandalf not arrived with the reinforcements. Oh and wait... WHO was it that saved the entire party, even Frodo from the Balrog? oh yeah, it was Gandalf again. Damn apparently all Aragorn can do is cry cause he can't be with stephen tyler's daughter.

mandosoldier wrote:

GringoDingo wrote:

isaac5 wrote:

1ArmGamer wrote:

More like a draw between two users (who's names I will not mention). Both have their respective "opinions" and are going to stick by them.

thats not really what i mean i meant it is evenly matvhed so draw because aragorn is a more skilled experienced fighter that luke but luke has the force

Aragorn has powers too-- mainly the power of LEADERSHIP. AND COMMAND. Luke just has some magic tricks; Aragorn leaves Gandalf to deal with the penny-ante Penn & Teller stuff. Luke couldn't even beat a few Ewoks (and I don't mean the whole tribe, I just mean the few who captured him).

Um yeah that's why he was able to manipulate them into believing 3PO was a god and freed the whole group.

He LEVITATED 3PO to do that-- if he was any good, why not just use the "Jedi Mind Trick" from the beginning? Or doesn't that work on Ewoks either-- along with Hutts and Toidarians?
Wow, what an AWESOME POWER, works almost HALF the time!
Hell, Bill Clinton fooled people better than that.

Again, levitation is Penn & Teller stuff; even David Copperfield made the whole damn STATUE OF LIBERTY disappear.

He didn't TRY to fight them, he knew he wouldn't have to.

Because he knew that he could convince them that 3PO was a God, and order them to help him? Yeah, I'm SURE he knew all that.
Oh yeah- "May the Force be with you!" BWAAHAHAHAHAHA

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Yeah leadership and command, that's why he doesn't command either until the last part of part 3, just spends the rest of the time moping chasing hobbit carrying orcs from place to place.

He LED attacks on Sauron's forces for 60 YEARS, HELLO?

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And you recall he would have lost had Gandalf not arrived with the reinforcements.

That was Helm's Deep, where they were out-numbered about 20-1. And Gandalf TOLD him to go there in the first place, he would have known better otherwise.

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Oh and wait... WHO was it that saved the entire party, even Frodo from the Balrog?
oh yeah, it was Gandalf again.

This isn't about Aragorn vs. the BALROG, Ace. A Balrog could take FIFTY Jedi.
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Damn apparently all Aragorn can do is cry cause he can't be with stephen tyler's daughter.

Probably because everybody ELSE was already.
The movie is NOT CANON!

led forces against sauron for 60 years? is that what he was doing while moping in the prancing pony? Funny way of leading the battle. And I don't care hwat Gandalf told him, had Gandalf not shown up, he woul dhave lost that battle no matter where it was. and yeah, sometimes the force can go "hey don't kill these guys, they may be of help" kind of an intuition thing, much like he knew that his father coul dbe brought back from the dark side. And hey if levitation works, then it's not pen and teller stuff, it's simply the right tool for the job.

mandosoldier wrote:

led forces against sauron for 60 years? is that what he was doing while moping in the prancing pony?

No, he was there LOOKING for Frodo, genius.

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And I don't care hwat Gandalf told him, had Gandalf not shown up, he woul dhave lost that battle no matter where it was.

So you're saying he was stupid to trust Gandalf? No intelligent person would say that.

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>and yeah, sometimes the force can go "hey don't kill these guys

Who said anything about killing them? Just wave his hand and tell them "you don't want to cook us, you want to HELP us!"

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hey may be of help" kind of an intuition thing, much like he knew that his father coul dbe brought back from the dark side. And hey if levitation works, then it's not pen and teller stuff, it's simply the right tool for the job.

Well speaking of tools..... 'nuff said.
Pretty convenient scenario there, since there was a whole division of stormtroopers and AT-ST's in the woods, and his great "Force sense" could tell him that the Ewoks would definitely beat them without his help-- but not alert him TO THE VERY PRESENCE OF SUCH!
You CAN'T be more than 11.

GringoDingo wrote:

Who said anything about killing them? Just wave his hand and tell them "you don't want to cook us, you want to HELP us!"

So eventually when they realize what happened, they WOULD eat them? When all that's needed is to explain what's going on and ask for help? Wow, I'd hate to be on your side.

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hey may be of help" kind of an intuition thing, much like he knew that his father coul dbe brought back from the dark side. And hey if levitation works, then it's not pen and teller stuff, it's simply the right tool for the job.

Well speaking of tools..... 'nuff said.
Pretty convenient scenario there, since there was a whole division of stormtroopers and AT-ST's in the woods, and his great "Force sense" could tell him that the Ewoks would definitely beat them without his help-- but not alert him TO THE VERY PRESENCE OF SUCH!
You CAN'T be more than 11.

Why would he need the force to alert him to the presence of the empire on Endor? He knew they were there already when they landed you feeble minded idiot. And as for the ewoks, they belong there and they're primitive. They probably blend so well into the backgroud they most likely registered as life forms but not dangerous, kind of like being able to know a large bird is there, but not out of place. But again, this is Aragorn vs Luke. Not SW vs LOTR.

And in a 1 on 1 fight the force > leadership since in 1 on 1 there's no one to lead. Force choke would end fight. Levitating Aragorn would render him unable to do anything but swing aimlessly, mind affecting usage of the Force would also end fight. Aragorn loses, and I don't give a crap what kindo f king he is, he has nothing that can withstand the Force or the cut of a lightsaber.

mandosoldier wrote:

hey may be of help" kind of an intuition thing, much like he knew that his father coul dbe brought back from the dark side. And hey if levitation works, then it's not pen and teller stuff, it's simply the right tool for the job.

Well speaking of tools..... 'nuff said.
Pretty convenient scenario there, since there was a whole division of stormtroopers and AT-ST's in the woods, and his great "Force sense" could tell him that the Ewoks would definitely beat them without his help-- but not alert him TO THE VERY PRESENCE OF SUCH!
You CAN'T be more than 11.

Why would he need the force to alert him to the presence of the empire on Endor? He knew they were there already when they landed you feeble minded idiot.

Well then I guess he was FAKING surprise, when the Emperor told him about the extra division :D
Of course ONLY "a feeble-minded idiot" wouldn't know that :D
ROTFMAO

And as for the ewoks, they belong there and they're primitive. They probably blend so well into the backgroud they most likely registered as life forms but not dangerous, kind of like being able to know a large bird is there, but not out of place. But again, this is Aragorn vs Luke. Not SW vs LOTR.

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And in a 1 on 1 fight the force > leadership since in 1 on 1 there's no one to lead.

Except Luke himself.

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Force choke would end fight.

Yep: Luke chokes himself, end of fight.
Glad you agree!

Took you long enough to finally realize it.
BWAHAHAHAHA

Besides, then Luke would be using the naughty-naughty, no-no, (whisper) DARK SIDE (gasp)-- and if our contestants are going to pull out all the stops like that, then Aragorn gets THE Ring of power, rather than refusing it at Rivendell (while Luke was so weak that he DID use the Dark Side).

Then you might wanna say a prayer for Luke, not that it would do him any good against an invisible king with Dark Lord super-powers-- AND who is a Level 12 ranger with Elven-stealth, AND sword that's a +50 artifact?

When will you warsie-teens learn, to FORGET the Penn & Teller stuff? This isn't an RPG.

GringoDingo wrote:

Well then I guess he was FAKING surprise, when the Emperor told him about the extra division :D
Of course ONLY "a feeble-minded idiot" wouldn't know that :D
ROTFMAO

He knew they were there yes, but somehow knowing that more have been sent? again 2 different things.

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Yep: Luke chokes himself, end of fight.
Glad you agree!

I doubt this would even be possible, talk about fanboiswank.

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Besides, then Luke would be using the naughty-naughty, no-no, (whisper) DARK SIDE (gasp)-- and if our contestants are going to pull out all the stops like that, then Aragorn gets THE Ring of power, rather than refusing it at Rivendell (while Luke was so weak that he DID use the Dark Side).

Then you might wanna say a prayer for Luke, not that it would do him any good against an invisible king with Dark Lord super-powers-- AND who is a Level 12 ranger with Elven-stealth, AND sword that's a +50 artifact?

When will you warsie-teens learn, to FORGET the Penn & Teller stuff? This isn't an RPG.

wow how did dungeons and dragons get into this? and you called ME 11? I bet you run around parks in a cape, sword and pointy ears calling yourself Paraxass and such don't you? OK since you took it there. Tolkien being dead, leaves GL as dungeon master, who comes and decides that Aragorn suddenly falls into a coma and dies. Luke wins. See I can play D&D too.

does DRAW mean anything to anyone?

isaac5 wrote:

does DRAW mean anything to anyone?

Not if you consider a guy trained by Elrond, equal to a kid trained by a fricking MUPPET.

yooda may be a muppet in the originals but he is computyer animated in the prequels!!!!!!

GringoDingo wrote:

isaac5 wrote:

does DRAW mean anything to anyone?

Not if you consider a guy trained by Elrond, equal to a kid trained by a fricking MUPPET.

he was trained by a damned elf so what?

mandosoldier wrote:

GringoDingo wrote:

isaac5 wrote:

does DRAW mean anything to anyone?

Not if you consider a guy trained by Elrond, equal to a kid trained by a fricking MUPPET.

he was trained by a damned elf so what?

elrond is smarter then the average bear um i mean elf

what i meant by "he is computer animated in the prequels" is that he is not a Muppet he is an alien that was part of the Jedi council

isaac5 wrote:

mandosoldier wrote:

GringoDingo wrote:

isaac5 wrote:

does DRAW mean anything to anyone?

Not if you consider a guy trained by Elrond, equal to a kid trained by a fricking MUPPET.

he was trained by a damned elf so what?

elrond is smarter then the average bear um i mean elf

what i meant by "he is computer animated in the prequels" is that he is not a Muppet he is an alien that was part of the Jedi council

Indeed; calling Elrond "a damned elf," is like calling Jesus "some dummy at a bar-mitzvah."

And Yoda didn't train Luke in the prequels.

amen!!!!!!!

isaac5 wrote:

amen!!!!!!!

As for "he is not a Muppet he is an alien that was part of the Jedi council"

Well he sure looks like Kermit and talks like Grover!

in reality they are all actors

and we are all naked under our clothes

isaac5 wrote:

in reality they are all actors

Except for the MUPPET.

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and we are all naked under our clothes

If you've never heard of UNDERWEAR.

GringoDingo wrote:

Indeed; calling Elrond "a damned elf," is like calling Jesus "some dummy at a bar-mitzvah."

And Yoda didn't train Luke in the prequels.

sok so he's the grand elf. Whatever, who freaking cares. He doesn't even enter into the argument. And of course Yoda didn't train Luke in the prequels, Luke wasn't even born at that time. Point is. Aragorn has zero ability to counter the force, his army of dead is released and cannot be called back, leaving hi to be a ordinary king. Luke, yes is less experienced maybe but the force gives him such an advantage, that Aragorn has no hope of overcoming it and winning.

mandosoldier wrote:

GringoDingo wrote:

Indeed; calling Elrond "a damned elf," is like calling Jesus "some dummy at a bar-mitzvah."

And Yoda didn't train Luke in the prequels.

sok so he's the grand elf. Whatever, who freaking cares. He doesn't even enter into the argument. And of course Yoda didn't train Luke in the prequels, Luke wasn't even born at that time. Point is. Aragorn has zero ability to counter the force, his army of dead is released and cannot be called back, leaving hi to be a ordinary king. Luke, yes is less experienced maybe but the force gives him such an advantage, that Aragorn has no hope of overcoming it and winning.

Aragorn has GREAT powers; he can read minds at a great distance, he can perceive things far off, and he has great power of will and command.
Also, he had access to the Ring of Power, so if Luke can use Sith-powers then Aragorn gets the Ring, simple as that $hit-head.

nope sorry, if Aragorn is already king then the ring of power is destroyed. My turn to call fanboiswank. Lightsaber beats metal I'm afraid. You lose.

GringoDingo wrote:

isaac5 wrote:

in reality they are all actors

Except for the MUPPET.

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and we are all naked under our clothes

If you've never heard of UNDERWEAR.

do i really need to break this down for you? was your elementary school teacher a chihuahua??

or is that the best comeback you can think of

mandosoldier wrote:

nope sorry, if Aragorn is already king then the ring of power is destroyed. My turn to call fanboiswank. Lightsaber beats metal I'm afraid. You lose.

nope we agreed in this post:

When he started this topic REB wrote:

If Aragorn fought Luke Skywalker, who would win?

If they were both using swords...

that they would both be using swords

mandosoldier wrote:

which btw Gandalf
gandlaf may be less than yoda but
elrond and gandalf greater than yoda
erlond and gandalf equal to yoda and obi won

GringoDingo wrote:

Aragorn has powers too-- mainly the power of LEADERSHIP. AND COMMAND. Luke just has some magic tricks

some magic tricks that can keep his mouth shut while making a sword fly at him at the same time

and it doesnt even matter because it is aragorn vs luke not aragorn and frodo and the dwarves and the army of the dead and eagles and dragons and his numenaorean army vs luke and the ewoks and tie fighters and x wings

isaac5 wrote:

GringoDingo wrote:

isaac5 wrote:

in reality they are all actors

Except for the MUPPET.

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and we are all naked under our clothes

If you've never heard of UNDERWEAR.

do i really need to break this down for you? was your elementary school teacher a chihuahua??

or is that the best come back you can think of

mandosoldier wrote:

nope sorry, if Aragorn is already king then the ring of power is destroyed. My turn to call fanboiswank. Lightsaber beats metal I'm afraid. You lose.

nope we agreed in this post:

When he started this topic REB wrote:

If Aragorn fought Luke Skywalker, who would win?

If they were both using swords...

that they would both be using swords

mandosoldier wrote:

which btw Gandalf
elrond and gandalf greater than yoda
erlond and gandalf equal to yoda and obi won

GringoDingo wrote:

Aragorn has powers too-- mainly the power of LEADERSHIP. AND COMMAND. Luke just has some magic tricks

some magic tricks that can keep his mouth shut while making a sword fly at him at the same time

and it doesnt even matter because it is aragorn vs luke not aragorn and frodo an the dwarves and the army of the dead and eagles and dragons and his numenaorean army vs luke and the ewoks and tie fighters and x wings

You're too illiterate to answer.

that dosen't make sense

piegirl1000 wrote:

that dosen't make sense

Illiterates never DO make sense.

no, what you wrote doesn't make sense

piegirl1000 wrote:

no, what you wrote doesn't make sense

That's because nothing makes sense TO an illiterate, either.

no
i wasnt illiterate at all

your just making things up cause you cant be proved wrong