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Most Revolutionary Movies of all time!
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Submitted by imhamzak117 on Thu, 05/26/2011 - 06:13
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The movies that you think have made history. Here are some of mine:Inception, Shawshank Redemption, Dark Knight, Donnie Darko, The Matrix, Terminator 2, Toy Story 3, Planet of the apes (1968 version) and The Lord of the rings trilogy. What's your list? hamzak signing out :)
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Though I didn't seen Donnie
Though I didn't seen Donnie Darko (yet* apperantley) I agree with the lis./short rant: Except Inception... That movie was great but every time I hear people calling it revolutionary i start to hate it more and more... Its just a... Gah, no i won't do this. You like it: Hope you'll always enjoy it! *Ictiv that gained the power of Positive attitude.*What I'd ad is kind of a cliché: 2001. I mean...*Warning: Ictiv has lost the power of Positive attidue.* 70% of the special effects every body drooled over in Inception came from here! The other 30% is damn computer animation and framerate manipulation! And I don't care! I'll climb Everest and shout it to the world: I don't like the best movie of 2010! *Ictiv has gained the power of 'What-I-feel-right-is-right-for-me' attitude. Also the Disney Fantasia movies I think deserve a place here. I'm not sure if they were the first to do that kind of animation to music thing but if yes then I think they deserve a place here.The Cable Guy... I mean sure it was dark but at the same time it was so honest. I personally felt bad for Jim Carrey's character. Maybe its not what people expected but maybe if people didn't go into movies with expectations based of earlier works, they wouldn't see genius where there is little... Like at Inception *slaps self* Sorry. Ather lenoro' sharanteh! (Ather's light guide us!)"Food for thought!"
I thought cable guy was just
I thought cable guy was just watchable, Jim carrey was the shining point of the film but I don't see how its revolutionary in any way.As for 2001, I only got to see it once when i was like 5 so I don't really remember much of it.The main reason why I created the list is because I saw Donnie Darko last night and thought it was absolute brilliance! I made this list specifically to add that movie to the list. Its had a weird, post matrix viewing type effect on me. I definetly wasn't expecting what I got and think that it deserves a place on a list like this one. Now this may sound shocking but I didn't really watch alot of Disney movies as a kid, (THE WORLD LETS OUT A COMBINED GASP) other than watching the occasional Mickey mouse and crew shows and some features like Tarzan and Aladin. I only started watching more after I heard of Pixar. I haven't seen the fantasia movies (WORLD LETS OUT ANOTHER GASP) so I'll check them out. I can't believe I forgot to list Raiders. I know that its not as big now as it was before but in its day, I thought it was the best movie ever so Indie is also on my list.hamzak signing out :)
i won't condemn you for
i won't condemn you for insulting my absolute favorite movie and not just for the FX, but it is already fairly influencial in its own right. I can't remember a movie in recent times that turned on the audiences thinkers as much as this movie has, plus the new X-Men movie had to have 13 pages of its script rewritten in one fight scene to avoid ripping off inception.
The Cabel Guy is
The Cabel Guy is revolutionary, though more of a stand alone movie in the sense that when people made (make) comedies they either go with simple happy-happy sunshine comedies, somewhat relative but still positive in the end comedies or very dark, ironic and satirical comedies and the Cabel Guy pretty much took all the iconic bits and pieces of this 3 sub-genre and mixed them up. It very dark once you look on the psyche of Carrey's character and the trap his 'bff' fell into, then it is relatively rewarding near the end, when things, if not fully but work out for the poor 'bff' and then of course there's Jim Carrey's character who creates this imaginary wonderworld that we can't see but feel is there. Which by itself is strange as the very darkest parts come from the very same place.Inception's story was not bad. Infact I loved it the first time I came out of the theather. It was presented well and it had a certian atmosphere that few (note: few=less than all but more than a couple) other movies presented... But it is in no way as awesome as I kept hearing it was. Infact the very reason I sunk to hatred on this one was becasue every freaking time I wanted to talk about movies with pretty much anybody the conversation went like this: "Yeah, Devil was kinda wierd, but I guess I can see where they wanted to go with it. Of course it doesn't make much sense that-" "Yeah, yeah. But you know what was awesome? Inception! Did I mention this is a critically acclaimed movie that I watched in a theather?"Sorry about my constant ranting but it just crawls under my skin. I don't mind if someone likes it but give me better reasons for its greatness than reinventing the freaking wheel. By Inception's standards all one has to do to make a great movie is to go in a library ->Search the fiction section for a few good ideas -> make a script-> and put a good actor in it. Bam!... Oh god... I hope I didn't just describe how every good movie out there was made. Ather lenoro' sharanteh! (Ather's light guide us!)"Food for thought!" Don't mind him people, he's just an idiot, will try to straighten his head. Good Day! ~ The Narrator.
Jurassic Park: brought
Jurassic Park: brought dinosaurs into the modern age around the same time as a scientific revolution. Dinosaurs went from lumbering giants to quick, cunning, feroscious, even bigger, and seemingly-less-obscolete-just-because-they-went-extinct. Jaws: influenced many horror movies later such as Alien in balancing between gore and suspense. it also turned sharks from just a force of nature, into demons. Star Wars: It had higher ticket sales than Avatar managed to rack up. It was the first space epic and even inspired some kids to become scientists so they could create the world of Star Wars. Toy Story: It catapulted pixar into the largest animation company in the world and was the first full length computer animated film. King Kong: It was one of the first mega budget movies and is a staple of american film making. Wizard of Oz: Many music producers for films draw on the the music pattern from Oz. Like Kong, it is also a staple of american film making.Gone with the Wind: Hated this film when i watched it, but how many soap operas bare an uncanny similarity to this mega classic.
Coming to Jim Carrey, I feel
Coming to Jim Carrey, I feel that I should add the Truman Show since it was very very orignal and a beautiful movie at that. It totally stuck to my heart so I can proudly call it Revolutionary. I haven't seen Gone With The Wind but I hear its quite good so I'll give it a look. hamzak signing out :)
Don't forget...
... Fritz Langs Metropolis.Although nearly 90 years old (1927), this is still seen as one of the most forward thinking films of its time in terms of direction and effects. I think that if it wasn't for this film, science fiction would not have been as big a genre as it is today. Also the original King Kong was equally revolutionary, awesome to watch even now.Can I also add Top Secret, if only because it was funny as? Not much compares to Omar Sharif asking - "How much for the trick turd?", and the Swedish bookstore scene is pure class.
Gone with the wind was
Gone with the wind was really boring, i don't recomend it but it deserves to be on this list.
You forgot two big ones.
You forgot two big ones. There is no opinions to these two, it is a fact.Original unbutchered Star Wars trilogy. The at-the-time new sound technology.Avatar. The new CGI technology.
I mentioned Star
I mentioned Star Wars What can I say, chicks are my Kryptonite.
New entry
Just watched Fight Club, talk about mindf***! Definetly in my list!hamzak signing out :)
Fight Club
Christ yeah, top film.Actually Brad Pitt's been in a few good films, Twelve Monkeys, Se7en, possibly Snatch!
THE STAR WARS
THE STAR WARS SAGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes! Fight Club
I was gonna get up this forum for not mentioning Fight Club, but I am content now that you have.My favourites list is probably the very first post there (except for the planet of the apes).My list is gonna be "A Scanner Darkly," "Fight Club" (Duh), "The Jacket", "The Sixth Sense", "Misery" and "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" just because they all have their own unique style and story. Some oldies I'm agreeing with is "The Wizard of Oz", just cause it has a lot of themes mixed in with an acid trip and I also like the old "To Kill a Mokingbird" adaptation.Also: "The Bucket List", "I, Robot" (I liked the theme of souls in there...), "The Fox and the Hound" and "Kick Ass".But on the top there with "Fight Club" would have to be "Watchmen". Similarily to Fight Club, it's something you have to watch twice to understand the powerful messages thrown in there.Movies ftw!
You're Right :)
You're Right :) Watchmen should be on the list since it moved away from the typical 'superhero fights and defeats bad guy' formula that other superhero movies rely on and also presents a deep message that makes us aware of the type of society we may already live in. I for one got the message from the start and I don't understand why people think that it's complicated.I Robot isn't really revolutionary (in my opinion) since the whole machines vs humans thing has been done before like a hundred times and it didn't really bring anything new to the genre other than some great effects. It basically copies from the Terminator and the matrix (robot war and a robot learns the value of life). The bucket list is pretty good, I don't really remember to kill a mockingbird so I'll decide whether it should be on the list after another viewing. Kick Ass is awesome aswell!"Beneath this mask, there is an idea and ideas are bulletproof."
First of all: God do I love
First of all: God do I love that quote you use as your signature now! :D*ahem* On-Topic:I think the reason why people don't get the message right away in some movies (especially the ones where messages and action are mixed together) is because on first watch people go it (probably with a few friends) and watch it to get a kick out of it. They enjoy the action (in other movies the humour, romance, etc) then when they're out they get that feeling in the back of their head that 'Yeah I think there was a message there too' and go back to see it. Then they get the meaning. Still... I think 'the' meaning is not the right word. Everyone sees their own truth in there. Some see a corrupt world in Watchmen that should be avoided. Some see that if we sink that deep, we deserve it. That's the sign of a good story I think.I agree that I, Robot isn't that revolutionary (even though I personally loved it on a 'fun factor' level). There is though one thing that might happen due to this movie and its supposed upcoming sequel: They might listen to viewer critisism. Everyone said it didn't stay true to the original Asimov stories, perhaps someone will look up in Hollywood and say: "Wait a minute... Maybe we could make these shorts, with paradoxes, programming dificulties, idielastic designs, trully thinking machines... It could be a whole series!" It might not turn out great, but if it does? It will be the New Star Trek (minus the interstellar soapopera bits).Last thing: I never really thought that in Terminator or Matrix the machines would learn the value of life. I mean I see your point but I think in Matrix its rather that they no longer 'hate all humans' than 'understand the value of life'. In the Terminator (I take you mean Salvation and not the reprogrammed Arnolds) our main machine fights Skynet because first his programming tells him to, then also because he can't stand for the means Skynet uses (for example: his creation). Its rather personal with him.I'm just saying that if a robot would suddenly 'Realize life's value' he would essentially think his existance is lesser due to it 'not being alive'. In the case of genocidal machines that would rather lead to an even more harsh war than a peace. Ather lenoro' sharanteh! (Ather's light guide us!)"Food for thought!"
First off, Thanks for the
First off, Thanks for the compliment :D Secondly, I meant that at the end of terminator 2, Arnie does learn why it's not ok to kill people so he does in fact, learn the value of a human life. But you're right about salvation, Marcus was already aware of the value of life and was only acting upon skynet's orders so that movie would be a poor example of the point. In the animatrix, the second renaissance, the machines do at the beginning understand how life works, thus rebel against their human oppressors and instead of war, they wanted peaceful negotiations but the humans' denial of this peace and their attempts to finish of the machines made them realise that HUMANS are the only exception in the peaceful nature of life so they already know the value of life, but neo's sacrifice just made them consider the possibilty that humanity isn't completely hopless. However, I think that you have a point with your last statement. But lets think of it this way, If the robot truly learned the value of life, it would have a better understanding of life than a human being. Thus, it is left to debate whether the robots will be considered real life since they would then have a 'soul'. So their existence would not be futile would it. But In the case of Genocidal machines, I guess that WOULD lead to more conflict. "Beneath this mask, there is an idea and ideas are bulletproof."
Huh... Somehow I forgot
Huh... Somehow I forgot about T2-s end... Still as I recall, he picks up a few thing but still only kills himself to complete his programming (prevent the creation of Skynet). As for Animatrix: Point taken but a peaceful approach doesn't mean they 'understand the value of life. When an intelligent sepcies has the option to either kill their masters or prove they are equals to them trough politics, due to heavy losses on both sides they will first try peaceful means. Infact peaceful negonation just proves how unaware they were of the human factor. (If they would know anything about humans they would know how requests of freedom from the part of slaves usually ended).The last bit's logic is very sound. Still, for a robot to learn the value of life on the level you suggest would take something of a 'Eureka' moment on its part. And that rarely happens on command, much less on a single act of self sacrafice. I still say, the best that the Machines in the Matrix could have realized upon Neo's sacrafice was that (as you said) humanity is not a hopeless aquintence. And that their 'different' logic might prove useful at times. Ather lenoro' sharanteh! (Ather's light guide us!)"Food for thought!"
However,
If you recall, his programming was to simply protect John from the T-1000, he only helped prevent J day for John as he has learned to value human life and is willing to move away from his orignal programming for that. And I didn't mean the nature of human beings but the value that their life holds despite it's setbacks. They became aware of the human factor and realised that co-existence was not likely but Humans were still life. This would explain why they didn't just wipe the humans out and find an alternative power source from the start. They Knew the value of life which Human society forgot in their vanity and corruption. Guess That Makes them more human then the actual Humans. Neo's Sacrifice did make them look at the current humans and think,'We Miscalculated'. "Beneath this mask, there is an idea and ideas are bulletproof."
He spared lives far before
He spared lives far before "learning the value of life". John told him not to kill them and he didn't. He was to follow John's orders aswell.I know how you meant the value of human life. What I said I meant as "that's tops as far as they could get". I also doubt they would regret anything. Unlike humans, computers are perfectly aware that they can't make bad decisions, only ones that are based on too little data. Neo's sacrafice only shown that humans are capable of voluntary cooperation, proving they might have a use other than batteries.Again, I might be wrong. One man sees one thing, the other another. Ather lenoro' sharanteh! (Ather's light guide us!)"Food for thought!"
One movie that I say is
One movie that I say is definitely revolutionary is Citizen Kane. If you haven't seen it you must! This was one of the first movies to use the visual techniques that Orson Welles used. It is also considered one of the best films ever made.